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- By Adam Owens
- 07 Nov 2025
After spending decades researching chimpanzee actions, Jane Goodall became a specialist on the aggressive tendencies of leading males. In a recently released interview filmed shortly before her demise, the renowned primatologist shared her unusual solution for addressing certain individuals she viewed as displaying similar characteristics: sending them on a one-way journey into the cosmos.
This notable insight into Goodall's thinking emerges from the Netflix documentary "Last Statements", which was filmed in March and preserved confidential until after her latest passing at 91 years old.
"There are persons I'm not fond of, and I wish to send them on one of Musk's spaceships and send them all off to the planet he's sure he's going to discover," commented Goodall during her discussion with her interlocutor.
When asked whether the SpaceX founder, famous for his questionable behavior and associations, would be part of this group, Goodall replied with certainty.
"Certainly, without doubt. He could serve as the leader. Picture whom I would include on that spacecraft. Together with Musk would be Trump and various Trump's real supporters," she stated.
"And then I would add the Russian president in there, and I would place China's President Xi. I'd certainly put Israel's prime minister on that journey and his far-right government. Send them all on that vessel and launch them."
This wasn't the initial instance that Goodall, a champion of conservation efforts, had expressed criticism about the former president in particular.
In a 2022 interview, she had observed that he showed "the same sort of actions as a dominant primate will show when he's competing for supremacy with an opponent. They posture, they parade, they portray themselves as really more large and hostile than they may actually be in order to intimidate their opponents."
During her posthumous documentary, Goodall elaborated on her understanding of dominant individuals.
"We get, remarkably, two kinds of dominant individual. One does it through pure aggression, and since they're powerful and they combat, they don't endure for extended periods. Others do it by employing intelligence, like an aspiring leader will just confront a superior one if his ally, often his brother, is alongside him. And research shows, they endure far more extended periods," she explained.
The celebrated primatologist also studied the "social dimension" of actions, and what her comprehensive research had shown her about combative conduct exhibited by human communities and apes when encountering something they perceived as dangerous, even if no threat actually existed.
"Chimpanzees encounter an unfamiliar individual from a nearby tribe, and they get highly agitated, and the hair stands out, and they extend and touch another, and they show these faces of hostility and apprehension, and it catches, and the rest adopt that emotion that a single individual has had, and the entire group grows combative," she detailed.
"It spreads rapidly," she continued. "Some of these demonstrations that grow violent, it sweeps through them. They all want to participate and engage and grow hostile. They're guarding their domain or fighting for control."
When inquired if she considered comparable patterns occurred in humans, Goodall replied: "Likely, on occasion. But I strongly feel that the majority of individuals are ethical."
"My biggest hope is raising future generations of caring individuals, foundations and growth. But are we allowing enough time? It's unclear. It's a really grim time."
Goodall, born in London shortly before the commencement of the World War II, equated the battle with the difficulties of present day politics to England opposing German forces, and the "spirit of obstinance" shown by Winston Churchill.
"However, this isn't to say you don't have moments of depression, but then you come out and state, 'OK, I refuse to permit their victory'," she stated.
"It resembles the Prime Minister during the conflict, his famous speech, we will oppose them at the coastlines, we'll fight them along the roads and metropolitan centers, afterward he commented to a companion and reportedly stated, 'and we will oppose them with the remnants of shattered glass since that's everything we've bloody well got'."
In her concluding remarks, Goodall shared motivational statements for those combating political oppression and the ecological disaster.
"At present, when the planet is difficult, there continues to be possibility. Don't lose hope. Should optimism fade, you become indifferent and remain inactive," she recommended.
"Whenever you want to save the remaining beauty on our planet – when you wish to save the planet for coming generations, future family, their offspring – then contemplate the actions you implement each day. As, multiplied numerous, multiple occasions, minor decisions will create great change."
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